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      Jon Nelson first appeared in MM+M’s coverage in December 2021 when he penned an op-ed about his patient journey with mental illness.

      Over the ensuing years, Nelson has dedicated himself to mental health advocacy and — in his words — the mission of “pulverizing” the stigma around depression and mental illness.

      Since May is Mental Health Awareness Month, Nelson joins the show for a conversation with managing editor Jack O’Brien about his more than decadelong patient journey and the need to incorporate lived experience into the medical marketing process.

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